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Sarah Ludwig's avatar

You wrote: "As we reported at the time, Lott achieved this result by covertly modifying the FBI’s definition of an active shooter event. While the FBI uses “active shooting” to refer to attempted mass public shootings that aren’t part of another crime, Lott extends it to all shootings in public that aren’t part of another crime."

What sources do you have for the FBI definition?

When I did a quick search, this definition came up on multiple FBI websites: "The FBI defines an active shooter as one or more individuals actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area."

That seems to support Lott's definition much better than your interpretation limiting it only to "mass" shootings.

See https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/reports-and-publications/2024-active-shooter-report/view

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David Hinkley's avatar

One of the major difficulties with trying to have a meaningful discussion of violence involving guns is incomplete, nonexistent, or biased data sets. And the later is made much worse by the total lack of agreed upon definitions. We lack the most basic of data, the number of deaths by gun annually. The FBI data is based on incomplete voluntary reporting by some but not all law enforcement agencies. And the CDC figures are based on an extrapolation of data collected from a limited and unknown list of hospitals. We also lack accurate data on the total number of functioning firearms in private hands, the number of individuals who own firearms and their demographic make up, household where guns are present and data relating to monthly and annual firearms sales.

As to the rest of the data being used, it is all being gathered and compiled by biased parties. The reality is that the only individual or groups involved in this discussion are from either the pro or anti gun camps. Mainly because they are the only groups interested in the subject enough to spend time doing the research and data collection. Since the two sides lack common definitions for what is being gathered, comparing data sets is often an apple and oranges exercise.

The net result is that both sides have collected a large amount of sometimes conflicting data, upon which they have based conflicting conclusions. Given that both sides are doing this it is somewhat less than genuine to label the conclusions of either side as disinformation.

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